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Big Orange Boat to take case to BLM
Vendor says she was singled out from other businesses

By Nathan Bruttell
Today's News-Herald
Published Tuesday, November 3, 2009 9:36 PM MST

One way or another, the owners of the Big Orange Boat say they will be out on Lake Havasu next summer.


“I’d say it’s definitely more than likely right now,” Big Orange Boat co-owner Tricia Chrzanowski said. “Because it’s a legal issue that (the Bureau of Land Management) has no right to allow or not allow.”

Tricia Chrzanowski, her husband and co-owner Steve, are set to argue on Nov. 20 two BLM tickets issued earlier this year. Tricia Chrzanowski said she was singled out and feels the BLM has no right to prevent her from operating her floating restaurant on the lake. The tickets were issued as a violation of using BLM water to promote and operate a business, Chrzanowski said.

“I think it could escalate to include every business here in Havasu if that’s what they’re trying to enforce,” she said. “This could get ugly, but I’m up for the fight. I’m not one of the good old boys.”

The BLM, in coordination with the city, removed all shoreline vendors from Rotary Park and London Bridge beaches in July. The two parties are currently in negotiations to possibly allow two vendors back to the beaches, but both determined the BLM has exclusive jurisdiction over the water below 450 feet. The Big Orange Boat, during operation, sits out in the middle of the lake and therefore is not the city’s responsibility, according to BLM officials.

BLM Assistant Manager for Recreation and Visitors Services Mike Henderson said he could not comment about the current court litigation process but could comment on BLM’s policy.

“Any activity that is commercial, competitive, organized or vending, dealing with public lands or related waters requires a permit,” he said. “Anything dealing with below the 450-line from the lake bottom is still federal lands and involves us and the Bureau of Reclamation. Anything above that and it could be city, tribal, other property.”

Chrzanowski added that she had been operating the business for about 15 years on the water and never been asked to file for a permit until this summer.

BLM Lake Havasu Field Manager Ramone McCoy explained the issue was the result of limited resources and funding.

“The whole issue came up because the city asked us to get involved with the vendor issue and that’s when we became aware of the other businesses.”

McCoy also said she was aware the Big Orange Boat owners inquired about a Special Recreation Permit but had not filed one.

“The first thing anyone would have to do is come in with an application but we have not seen one from them yet,” McCoy said. “After seeing an application we take it and analyze the potential impacts of the activities. The process is required by the National Environmental Policy Act and we have to follow guidelines under that law.”

Chrzanowski said she does not plan to file an SRP.

“No one else is being required to fill out one,” Chrzanowski said. “Well, if I need one, then everyone needs one. If I’m different then I need answers and no one will give me answers right now. I believe this is a civil case about discrimination more than anything else. I want answers and proof of the answers.”

You can contact the reporter at nbruttell@havasunews.com

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Comments (60 comment(s))

    Dusan wrote on Nov 11, 2009 12:15 AM:

    " Still waiting for BLM to enforce the law for everyone,,We all know that the Marine Assn, and its members are exempt but there are lots that are not members yet "

    Triple J wrote on Nov 10, 2009 6:23 PM:

    " Poor B.O.B. So many haters. I'd rather not have a shoreline full of vendors, but I don't mind them cruising around the lake or being parked out in the middle of it selling stuff. Who cares that they sell condoms and cigarettes? 99.9% of the stores on land in Havasu sell them, too! What's the difference?? Is it the pasties? Are they that bad? They're kinda going out of style anyways. Not that my opinion counts for anything, but I think as long as they take their business/boat off the water when the business is closed and they aren't taking up public beach space...leave them alone. It's hard enough to make a living in Havasu. Leave the local small business's alone. "

    law wrote on Nov 10, 2009 9:21 AM:

    " I use the lake at least 100 hours a year which is more than most.
    1. The Big Yellow boat is great to have floating in the middle of Thompson Bay. The food is great and if you look at the boat itself it is cleaner than most restaurants in town.
    2. I look forward to pulling up in my boat and getting a great meal for a good price.

    In this economy why would anyone want a good established buisness that only makes Havasu better to go away!!

    The Vendors on the beach.
    1. Took the beach away from me to use.
    2. Their business buildings looked liked shacks (not good).
    3. They would fill the jet skis with gas and spill it into the water. "

    WATCHING HAVASU DIE wrote on Nov 9, 2009 5:18 PM:

    " BLM is breaking the laws of the United States, Absolutly if they enforce a made up law for 1 person they have to enforce it for everyone! Also by turning a blind eye to it for 70 years they gave their implyed concent, Also it is unlawful to legislate someone out of business,,Also some of those Vendors actually do have grandfather/squaters RIGHTS "

    kwb wrote on Nov 9, 2009 6:15 AM:

    " I don't care what you sell on your floating store as long as it's legal. WHAT i object to is the fact you do not pay to do business on the lake. How BLM and the city have allowed you folks both on the lake and along the shoreline for 15 years to do business with out charging you rent is beyond me.Obviously there is a need for your and the other businesses services since you are on here daily posting and fighting to bring your position to the public.Since every goverment agency is strapped for cash it is time these concessions are put out for bid.If the city is paid i would not mind seeing a hotdog stand or 2 on the shoreline. BOB I do find your araggance about being on the lake no matter what kind of off putting. Come on BLM charge the guy 10k 15k or what ever as long as it's not a give away and make him legal. Same goes for city put out for bid what ever number of concessions are necessary and make some much needed money. As far as these mystery businesses doing business that Mr. Barlow and other people refer to it's time to pay also. "

    FORD FAIRLANE wrote on Nov 8, 2009 10:49 PM:

    " Hey SUZY Q One thing for sure,, Nobody is yelling at you to SKI NAKED,, Its ok just stay in your house so you dont block MNs view "

    D BARLOW wrote on Nov 8, 2009 7:41 PM:

    " I do wonder when BLM is gonna make the rest get a permit? They say they are going to but I think its just talk (Lake Havasu Marine Assn) <AGAIN "

    D BARLOW wrote on Nov 8, 2009 7:38 PM:

    " These people (MN) Implying the the vendors dont pay taxes, If that is true call the IRS and snitch them out! Wondering if he pays taxes on the "photos" he sells from his trailor,, And you can see his additude is the same he has been here since day 1 so he can dictate what he has to look at! (he been taking pictures here for 40 years and its that one spot where the orange boat constricts his view) That is a highly sought after shot,,His House is constricting my view! "

    suzyQ wrote on Nov 8, 2009 5:10 PM:

    " Ford Fairlane...I have one last thing to ask you... what planet are you from and what time is the Mother Ship expected to take you back??
    Your out of touch blatherings are embarrassing...I am embarrassed for you. "

    Nightfalls wrote on Nov 8, 2009 9:56 AM:

    " bob i have to disagree with you. We have lived here for almost 20 years and do use the lake, so I do have a say as does ever person who votes and lives here. It is called America. Now I undersstand what you are saying about you have been out there all these years and now all of a sudden you need these permits. Well it is not all of a sudden, it is just that someone started a fight that did not involve you and the BLM said enough is enough take them all out. I went down to BLM and asked them about this permit and it is real easy to do and since you have all the city and county permits already you would have it made to file. Sorry to say but you need to just suck it up and file the paperwork and end all this. "

    LosTacos wrote on Nov 8, 2009 1:07 AM:

    " Esp enjoy reading Waching Havasu Die and formerjudge, Lake lizard They, unless Maybe they are the same person come up with some unique Havasu notsofactoids and opinions. I heard a rumor that both may actually not even be Havasu residents. Maybe they meet for bears at the dinner...OK my bear "beer" joke is getting old...Anyhow after looking at the zoning codes, ARS, and federal water demarcation zones (which are available to the public on line) BLM and city council with Marine Assoc may be in big trouble with this one, it may go the way of the windmill story. "

    LosTacos wrote on Nov 8, 2009 12:47 AM:

    " Hahaha love reading these. pizdof "it clearly says "blow-up dolls" and i also wonder how many "bears" can fit in a bear-bong??? "

    I'm wondering too, How many bears fit in a bear bong? Is that a black, brown or Kodiak Bear? Or maybe the beer is served at the black Bear diner? hmmmm? sorry but that was funny:) Come on people women have been walkin around Havasu for 30 yrs with nothin but pasties and g strings in front of families...And now people are complaining about a rubber doll that I'm sure most of you have seen before, and a boat that sells "bears" oops beer and smokes? What a bunch of old fuddy duddy prudes. Welcome to Havasu and Ski Naked! Yup Havasu is 10% retirement community, it's those little complexes off of Swanson and those folks have lived a full and propbly alot more fun life then those that comment on here, Heck those people are the founders of Havasu lifestyle and invented blow up dolls, pasties, home made pontoon boats, and beer bongs... Gosh people need to live a little, of course responsibly and safely. There are people dying in a war, swine flu, world economics failing, Mcdonalds sign going up near a Mcdonalds in Havasu, and a stripjoint massage parlor going in, and everyones is worried about a rubber blow up doll? HMMMM? "

    FORD FAIRLANE wrote on Nov 7, 2009 10:38 PM:

    " Hey Divel when you stop for that burger make sure you wife keeps her top on,,I hope you know that just because your married to her she is still comunity property, SKI NAKED AT THE RIVER ! And MN well I dont even know what to say to that,,Old people are ugly to me, Can you keep them out of sight too, They constrict my view of the young pretty lovelys, Can you fix that for me ? "

    davel wrote on Nov 7, 2009 10:56 AM:

    " Fair enough Bob... I'll be by for a burger. I'm far from being a priest, but obviously you understand that those of us that live here with our wives and kids don't want others to think we are an "anything goes" town. Your willingness to tone down your product line shows there is hope for us... but Former Judge and Watching Havasu Die "TYPES" may sadly remain hopeless "

    MN wrote on Nov 7, 2009 4:29 AM:

    " I am not suziq and I am not davel but I agreee with many on here. The ugly vendors on the lake ruin my photo taking! That may sound trivial, but I sell my photos and that is part of my lively hood! No, I don't sell them on the beach or in the parking lot or out of my trailer.. I own homes here and I pay taxes here and I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE DAY 1..When we were flown in to look at property! Your parking a big orange boat on the water constricts my veiws! You need to buck up and join the tax payers club! "

    Dusan wrote on Nov 7, 2009 12:48 AM:

    " Davil/Suzi Q. Do you prefer that you be right or happy?

    One of the surest ways to cause yourself great suffering is to insist upon being right - to demand that all others view life exactly as you view it.

    Why should it impede your happiness for others to have differing views on politics or religion? for others to paint their houses purple or grow asparagus in place of a grassy lawn? for others to dress, mingle, celebrate, or dine in their own manner?

    The path to happiness is to live your life joyfully in your own way and to support and encourage others to do likewise. "

    FORD FAIRLANE wrote on Nov 6, 2009 11:56 PM:

    " You people are nuts,,,This place got famous because of the saying "SKI NAKED AT THE RIVER" That has been the motto for 50 years at least,,BOB is right you cant move next to a train track and then complain about the noise. Wait til the new topless bar opens just outside of town (expected completion July 4 2010) then you will have something to snivel about! "

    suzyq wrote on Nov 6, 2009 7:17 PM:

    " WOW...just saw Watching Havasu Die's post..

    I must say...I do enjoy reading the ignorance factor of Havasu ...

    It is funny how you think that two intelligent posters 'HAVE' to be the same person...as if there is not that much brain power available in Lake Havasu ...that there can be more than one thinking individual. There are several posters here in this topic that are good....are we ALL the same?? "

    bob wrote on Nov 6, 2009 6:45 PM:

    " I am not trying to start a fight with anyone-and i am sorry my website says we sell blow-up dolls-we never have. I will call havaweb tomorrow and have my website looked at-I really didnt read it-its new! Sorry!
    We are following all laws-paying everything we have to and then more.

    We spend alot of time trying to make our boat good looking for people-We sell pasties but if you look at our boat-from a distance is doesnt say pasties in big letters-only when you come up close can you read that we sell them. That was on purpose!

    And the bathing suits at wall mart are smaller.

    We REALLY try to do whats right with the community.

    I dont know how long all of you people that are complaining have lived here and if you use the lake but if you are out there next year please come up try our food-check our prices and meet us-Please-i think you would be surprised.
    Your judgements are unfair. I am sure we were here and operating before you lived here-so you dont really have a right to change it because you decided to move here-and when you moved here did you hear anything about havasu?
    It was your choice to come here.
    No disrespect just an observation.
    You dont move nest to a train and complain about the noise. "

    davel wrote on Nov 6, 2009 6:24 PM:

    " Former Judge: I have lived here 27 years and the lake was not always about jet skis. It used to be about great fishing tournaments, water skiing, families out for a barbecue on their pontoon boats, even sail boats. People were friendly and courteous. Not selling blow-up dolls on "Orange Boats". By the way, those families spread more money around then just buying beer and fast food. Were you really a former judge? ... that's scary... Isn't Halloween over? "

    davel wrote on Nov 6, 2009 4:55 PM:

    " Watching Havasu Die: Sorry, but I don't know SuzyQ. Could it be SuzyQ and I just care more then some about the quality of life we share with our neighbors? It is always interesting how so many here think that "Freedom" is another word to describe legalized greed. How the term "Liberty" is another word to describe making money without regard to how repulsive or self-indulged others may find your behavior. Yes, the group that thinks the whole world is about them... and the freedom that they abuse. They stand behind their guns and bibles unless there is a buck to be made. I can understand how you could think we are the same person… after all, I think all you constitution quoting flag waving types must be the same person too. Did I just describe a Republican? "

    FORMER JUDGE wrote on Nov 6, 2009 4:13 PM:

    " Davel wrote on Nov 6, 2009 8:34 AM:

    " I have to agree with SuzyQ. I
    WELL OF COURSE YOUR THE SAME PERSON "

    FORMER JUDGE wrote on Nov 6, 2009 4:07 PM:

    " SUZY Q
    Kayaker says it all,,,If you didnt like jetskis why on earth did you move to "JET SKI CAPITAL OF THE WORLD" ? I am quite sure they were here before you! And that Big Orange Boat is in your way too? You have to paddel around it ? I know I know the music at Kokamos,,The ugly Big Pink Motel, And the panoramic view of the ugly city too,, Nuf said we all know your type,,please move to one of those lakes in cal that dont allow jet skis (I will drive the truck)You have plenty of money just pack it up and leave.. "

    WATCHING HAVASU DIE wrote on Nov 6, 2009 3:15 PM:

    " kinda wonder where the "higher life form" is from,,,"basic principles of LIBERTY and FREEDOM. This is the basic rights of all AMERICANS" This is what this country was founded on but This isnt the same country it was even 20 years ago,,,Not sure what america he lives in now<< "

    WATCHING HAVASU DIE wrote on Nov 6, 2009 3:11 PM:

    " You can see by the writing style Davel & Suzy Q are the same person. Just another cyber cross dresser ! "

    suzyq wrote on Nov 6, 2009 1:57 PM:

    " Not one ounce of jealousy about the 'water maggots' here 'FORMER JUDGE' I am sure they are fun to those riding them...but to those of us who Kayak or Fish...they are nothing more than a nuisance most of the time...breaking Lake Rules left and right...with NO ONE saying a peep about it. Could this be the reason that Lakes like 'Lake Mead' and 90% of the bigger lakes in Calfornia do not allow them on their lakes...?? Hmmmmm I wonder!!!
    Jobs Jobs Jobs...but at what cost... "

    FORMER JUDGE wrote on Nov 6, 2009 1:33 PM:

    " There is nothing wrong with what they are doing! They are not a safty hazard, They pay overhead its in the form of boat mechanics,fuel,parts, etc.,., They buy their stock from the same place as any other store does, The boat launch's fill up before the lake is full so it cant be an issue of space(the lake is huge over 600 miles of beach from dam to dam),.,.,Its just the jealousy factor,,(same reason some people hate jet skis is because people have so much fun on them,,,Used to be that way with motorcycles many years ago,,,You people need to keep your eye on the ball and it is JOBs JOBs JOBs everybody needs one! If they are working they are not stealing or on welfare,, So we have more to pump into the sewer money pit! "

    Davel wrote on Nov 6, 2009 8:34 AM:

    " I have to agree with SuzyQ. I like having a great time too, but I am tired of this town being promoted as a big party town where any type of behavior is allowed. The Big Orange Boat is just capitalizing on this at the expense of our town's image. The fact is, very few of us benefit from the type of party people that come here beyond a few lousy paying service jobs. However, we do get to pay additional taxes to cover the additional police and emergency services needed. This often places the towns people at risk because these services are spread thin during these times.
    Sorry Orange Boat Guy, but get a real job and remember... there is an old saying don't s..t where you eat, especially when there are others who have sit at the table with you. "

    higher life form wrote on Nov 6, 2009 8:04 AM:

    " This country was founded on the basic principles of LIBERTY and FREEDOM. This is the basic rights of all AMERICANS. It's what our soldiers are fighting for right now. Bob, get a permit and pay taxes. We all do. Everyone else that is trying to dictate what someone else is doing... Move to Cuba or North Korea. The government controls everything there and it sounds like your type of country. Long live civil liberty!!Long live FREEDOM!!!! "

    gatekeeper wrote on Nov 6, 2009 3:06 AM:

    " I’m a little alarmed after listening to Tricia’s self-indulgent logic, and I mean no disrespect, however Tricia, you are in for a rude awakening. This article partially quotes federal law regarding trade operation on waterways. Tricia believes BLM has no legal right to ensue. There are many federal agencies; however there is only one very long list of federal laws which can be enforced by any federal peace officer. When a federal agent hands you a ticket listing a federal statute which when defined, lists a course of conduct you’re committing, the best thing for you to do is instantaneously fix the issue and pray for the best. If you’re stopped for speeding and while the COP writes the ticket, five other cars pass while also exceeding the speed limit, this fact alone isn’t going to be a defense for your actions in Court. Here is the advice your attorney will come to offer once your $2,500 retainer check clears from the bank: Prior to your court date, complete and pay for ANY and ALL required applications and obtain your permit. Also obtain a business license from any jurisdiction for which your vessel floats across their waterways. When you arrive at your hearing, you must express frank regret for your egregious slip-up, and present his magnificence with your neat stack of freshly sealed permits & receipts. Beg for the clemency of the Court, and take anything you can get, (such as a LARGE fine in lieu of being locked up inside Alcatraz.) Then bow to the Court, and curtsey down the hall past the charming Federal Agent who will unquestionably remember you the next time you happen to violate some federal law written in 1934, located in the center of a 25 thousand page law book, and pay whichever tactless clerk you happen to get at the window. There is no need to offer thanks, because the look you probably have upon your face is splendor enough for me. NEXT!?!?! "

    FORD FAIRLANE wrote on Nov 5, 2009 11:31 PM:

    " LHCLocal1 wrote on Nov 5, 2009 6:15 PM:

    " Legal points,,,,,THATS A GOOD ONE I SEE YOU WORK FOR THE PROPAGANDA MACHINE (making it up as you go)
    Nice try thou ! Susy Q well she is just plain funny Bragging about her money "plenty of it" Just another person with a few bucks that thinks their someone cause of it,,Just remember TooTs 1 person=1 vote and thats all you are is 1 person,,P.S. why do you spend it all? A real person with money knows to save it,,So now we know you really dont have any! Your child support just got here early,,,, "

    n2havasu09 wrote on Nov 5, 2009 9:31 PM:

    " I agree to those who are more concerned about all of the advertising boats being out there, they are a much bigger eyesore and hazard. The big orange boat provides a legitimate service to people on the water trying to have a good time.

    And to those "holier than thou" folks who's "moral compasses" always point due "north"...So what if they did sell pasties, condoms, etc. Just because it's not of your taste doesn't mean it should be banned! Just don't give your money to the owners of the big orange boat to show your distaste that way. It's America, we are all allowed to hate or love the things we want to. There shouldn't be some crappy city government and it's uninformed (or mis-informed) citizens to force us to think otherwise. I do believe the owners when they say they have been trying to resolve the problem without it getting this far. I know plenty of people with businesses here who have had one run-in with the city too many for petty and pithy little things. It's horrible how they try to drive away the very things that have made Havasu a destination. Just think of what the city would be like without the "seasonal visitors" and their M-O-N-E-Y! "

    suzyq wrote on Nov 5, 2009 6:35 PM:

    " Now I understand why the 'FORMER JUDGE'!!! "

    suzyq wrote on Nov 5, 2009 6:29 PM:

    " Bob...

    If that is your web site...'Big Orange Boat in Lake Havasu, AZ...then you indeed advertise in just the order I listed...including Blow Up Dolls.. you are to be complimented in selling 'everyday items such as you mentioned ...but you don't list those...just the 'party items' ...so it is obvious what message you wish to send...not one of "Hey everyone...we offer you a wonderful selection of those often forgotten items on our Big Ornage Boat"...lets face it Bob...that's not as 'Hot' or 'Sexy' as Blow Up Dolls, condoms or pasties....
    As for what I do for my community...PLENTY!!! The Money I earn all comes in from outside the community ...and there is plenty of it...and guess where I spend it all...HERE in MY community...supporting ALL local businesses and my volenteer record is A+...so don't be pointing fingers at someone YOU don't know anything about. "

    suzyq wrote on Nov 5, 2009 6:20 PM:

    " Tim...check their web site...those are the very first items they list that they sell....I am not dreaming this stuff up...
    I say again...how proud we must all be to have a business that 'flaunts' the selling of blow up dolls on a beautiful lake...a lake I might add that is not and never was for the soul purpose of debauching ...there are families and 'non' partiers' that do frequent the lake...contrary to popular belief...we ALL share the lake...Locals bring their ice and beer...the only reason for selling condoms and blow up dolls on the open water is to promote what a party town we have to visitors...and keep those beliefs going... Money is made for the few...while those of us that live here and try to enjoy our beautiful area suffer the reputation that this town has been given...time to send a message before house prices fall further due to average people buying elsewhere "

    LHCLocal1 wrote on Nov 5, 2009 6:15 PM:

    " Legal points!

    1. BLM has Federal Jurisdiction to regulate commercial activities on public lands and related waters adjacent to them. ie: Lake Havasu.

    Quote from BLM Regulations: "Special Recreation Permits (SRPs) are authorizations which allow for commercial, competitive, and organized group recreational activities of public lands and related waters. They are issued as a means to manage visitor use, protect natural and cultural resources, and provide for the health and safety of visitors. SRPs are also issued as a mechanism to provide a fair return for the commercial recreational use of public lands."

    2. The Coast Guard regulates interstate commerce and permits marine events and regattas on Federal Waterways.

    The provisions of any marine event permit are set by the USCG Sector Commander (Captain) in San Diego. A "Reservist" does not have any authority to grant any special provisions for a marine event, or override any part of the permit requirements.

    3. If the BLM (or any other affected Government Agency) files an objection to any requested marine event,(or the provisions of them) the Sector Commander will either deny the permit, or work out a compromise acceptable to all parties. "

    FORMER JUDGE wrote on Nov 5, 2009 3:51 PM:

    " Hey they only sell what sells,,If there wasent a demand they wouldnt sell it,,You few need to bring your nose back down to everyone elses level so you can see the rest of the world,,,While you were worrying about them selling a doll someone else just ripped off your 401k Ha Ha,,You are the holyier than thou that expect the whole city to pay for educating your kids instead of doing your own parenting (the overide) Go to church and bark about the Blow up Doll Im sure the priest wants one,,, "

    lake_havasu_mom wrote on Nov 5, 2009 7:28 AM:

    " If the Big Orange Boat doesn't sell Blow Up Dolls then why is it specifically mentioned on their website that they do? I am not against them providing food on the water or ice, tweezers, diaper or nailclippers. What I find out of line is the selling of supplies that contributes to the main reason why families can not go out and enjoy the lake on weekends and are forced to only use the lake during the week days. We live here all year round and shouldn't be forced to enjoy our lake only when the visitors aren't here. "

    leslie wrote on Nov 5, 2009 4:53 AM:

    " Tim- I never said they weren't nice people; I could care less if they are nice or not. If you read my post you very cleverly took out what you wanted. Why not address all the issues like how that ugly boat is squatting on the beach just past Rotary Park right now? I don't care if these people waste their own money but if my taxes are involved by any way shape or form I do care. I care if I have to pay for moorage at the marina while they squat on the beach for free. I care that every other business in town pays fees to run a business but the orange boat is now screaming discrimination. This country is made up of victims and that is sickening. "

    pizdof wrote on Nov 5, 2009 2:11 AM:

    " tim ... "And they dont sell alcohol or blow up dolls" ... you should check their web site. it clearly says "blow-up dolls" and i also wonder how many "bears" can fit in a bear-bong??? "

    FORD FAIRLANE wrote on Nov 5, 2009 12:02 AM:

    " Havasu Resident is 100% correct,,,That is what started this mess, Jim Salscheider Of the Lake Havasu Marine Assn, Got his panties in a wad over BLM not giving them a permit, Then he got some coast guard reserve person to ok the event,So even a reservist has more authority than the BLM if this wasent true the BLM would have fined the Marine Assn, And that my friends is why none of the Marine Assn,members are required to get permits Because the Marine Assn know the BLM has no jurisdiction, "

    A Havasu Resident wrote on Nov 4, 2009 11:34 PM:

    " Bob,

    You need to close up shop and go away. We are sick and tired of seeing your kind of business on our lake. As for all the others you mention, they should go away too!

    As for your underage employee who commented on this board, grow up, pay taxes and come back when you have the right to vote! "

    havasu Resident wrote on Nov 4, 2009 9:29 PM:

    " Am I wrong about this?

    The Bureau of “LAND” Management has jurisdiction of LAND & LAND only & I think the Army Corps of Engineers are the ultimate authority! This also includes the Lake Bottom in certain area’s not to include National Wildlife or tribal areas.

    It is the US Coast Guard that Controls ALL federal waterways. They “only grant” Jurisdictional control to the Sheriff’s Dept & Havasu PD.

    Remember Desert Storm Poker Run 2009 where the Mayor & Jim Nichols Fought with the BLM to allow buoys on the lake bottom but the BLM did not allow it. The Coast Guard petty officers in command; Mike Herron & Kristen Beer said that the BLM tried to persuade them not to allow the event to go forward. Thankfully The USCG disagreed with the BLM suggestions & wound up working with the Marine Assoc of Havasu to set up above water boat anchor buoy points so the event went forward.

    So as long as you don’t anchor on the lake floor, no one can mess with you except the USCG. "

    tim wrote on Nov 4, 2009 4:01 PM:

    " Your all very uninformed-
    mogas-they arent on the shoreline-they are fully insured and licensed and have been here longer than most of us-this isnt the vendor issue.
    TomHavasu-They have been doing this business leagally for 15 years-and they arent on the shoreline-What about the othe illegal advertising boats? They are eyesores and dont have to go-or get permits.
    Northsider-your comment doesnt even make since-you obviously arent following the whole story.
    This is the 4th story regarding this issue.
    Leslie-It about civil rights-They are being discriminated against and it is coswting alot of money both for all of us in jobs and for the city in taxes and for them in legal costs-If it wasnt a real legal issue the paper wouldnt have written 4 articles and the us attorney wouldnt be calling them to make a deal-So you get over it!!

    They are really great people and have helped me and my family and alot of other families here in town--That is why i always try to fight for them-IF you all knew them you would too!!!

    GO met them-really!!
    They are great people-they will show you why and how they are right in their fight!! "

    signcraft wrote on Nov 4, 2009 3:48 PM:

    " I work for them-at signcraft and they also let me work on the boat-Yes-Im under 18-so what?
    For all of you that have bad things to say about them and what they do-YOU ARE WAY OFF BALANCE!!
    They are great people-They provide a great service to everyone-AND-they dont sell blowup dolls or anything like that!!
    Some of their stuff they dont even up charge for-Just so people will have a great time and want to come back-they have web sites and pay to advertise in other cities-to bring people here.

    We should all be fighting for them!!!

    I will picket evertime they need me-for free!!!! They help me out whenever i need them without wanting anything back "

    bob wrote on Nov 4, 2009 3:19 PM:

    " Hi Everyone, I was misquoted about
    "Im not gonna apply for one"
    and i assume all these rude comments were made before you read my statement fixing the article.
    The blm is not playing nice with any of us. If it were that easy-it would be done-THINK About it!!
    There is alot more to this story than youre being told-believe me-if you would like to come by (signcraft)i will show you the unjustice and lies that you are being-I have proof.
    And yes it is a big deal. This is my constitutional rights and this is discrimination. YOU ALL Should be mad even if you dont want us out thereITS wrong!!

    Suzyq-you have your opinion but we dont sell anything that isnt wanted and needed on the water. We also carry nailclipper, treezers, tampons and diapers-all just for the customers. We have a breathing machine and first aid-these are things that we dont charge for-and have really helped people-What do you do for your community. We donate to poor families, voluteer our time, Ask around before you make judements.
    We dont sell blowupdolls-or alcohol-there are other companies out there who doand they are still out there today. "

    tim wrote on Nov 4, 2009 3:01 PM:

    " Why arent you people concerned about the 15 advertising boats that are out there blocking your precious expensive views that sell pasties, beer, bouys that look like women parts? If the permit was that easy to get(as they are making it sound) they would have gotten one-instead of paying an attorney $20,000.
    Better yet why isnt the blm? It is an actual law-unlike this one that they are trying to make up-that doesnt yet exist.
    They have to create this law first-then give the permits-it takes 120 days minimum.-if at all!!

    The byg orange boat helps our communtiy and donates to poor families.
    And they dont sell alcohol or blow up dolls-beads, pasties and cigarettes yes-but so do alot of stores in town. "

    WATCHING HAVASU DIE wrote on Nov 4, 2009 1:06 PM:

    " City Council Members (Barlow & Calahan) have stated several times they love the food on the big orange boat!! O wait they dont have time to go out on the lake (except for photo opp) They are to busy watching our cash go down the "SEWER",,,,,,You can take off the suit Don (put on some work clothes) there is no way you gonna be Mayor,, "

    havasurat wrote on Nov 4, 2009 12:45 PM:

    " Wow I can't believe all the negativity about the Big Orange boat. I for one think that they provide a great service. If you are out on the lake and want some lunch or bag of ice you can pull up to the boat and get it at a reasonable price without having to go into the channel. It is a convenience that allows for more time to enjoy the lake with your family. The folks that operate the boat are always well anchored and assist boaters to safely tie up their boats. If what Bob is saying about the orange boat being the only one that rents a slip in the channel needing a permit then BLM has a lot of explaining to do. "

    Had it with Havasu wrote on Nov 4, 2009 12:22 PM:

    " All the vendors have asked for is to know what the process is to insure that they are operating legally andwill be able to continue to operate.

    For some reason the city decided that lake and lake-shore vendors needed to be gone. Their intent has been very clear.

    What Romone has thrown up with the SRP is a deflection, it really isn't even part of the process.

    What is so sad about this is vendors end up losing their livelihood while the people who are causing them to lose are insulated from not just litigation but also from penalties for making mistakes which cost people jobs.

    The BLM should assist. The city should assist. Rather, they put up roadblocks. "

    newmom07 wrote on Nov 4, 2009 9:56 AM:

    " I'm not totally against the vendors, but I am against that they got to conduct business with no overhead costs like every business has. One thing that does upset me is that the City and BLM made these changes during a recession when unemployment rates are at their highest in years. Nothing like putting more people out of work and in DES's waiting room! Our City Government is so bass ackwards! "

    suzyq wrote on Nov 4, 2009 9:05 AM:

    " I say "Bye Bye" to the Big Orange Beast, I for one will not miss such quality items that they offer

    Beads
    Pasties
    Blow up girls
    Condoms
    Cigarettes

    WOW...what a great way to advertise Lake Havasu ...as party central, you must be so proud to add to the demise of our city ... Hope you enjoyed your free run...time to pay the piper. "

    lake_havasu_mom wrote on Nov 4, 2009 7:16 AM:

    " If starting the process of being able to sell on the water is as easy as filing out an application for a permit why not do it? I have no sympathy for the owners of the Big Orange Boat if they don't comply with the law. Maybe they don't want to file an application because they sell items to the public that are typically only found in adult only stores in what is supposed to be a family friendly area and don't want to be scrutinized or told that they can not. Not to mention they employ teens under the age of 18 to sell these items. My opinion is that if you can't or won't file a permit and operate a family friendly business on the water than you don't belong there. "

    Leslie wrote on Nov 4, 2009 7:15 AM:

    " Geez, let it go lady. Exactly how much $ is being wasted on this issue? Isn't there another body of water near us that all these sales boats could go squat on? Heck, from what others write all the tourists go to to Laughlin, Vegas etc. anyway. Perhaps the orange boat and all the other eye sores can go there too. I think the beaches/bay look great with out the sales boats. Keep them out. Not to mention, why can the orange boat be squatting on the beach now just past rotary park? The rest of us have to pay mooring at the marina or launch daily. Not that boat, they just park wherever and never move. "

    Nightfalls wrote on Nov 4, 2009 7:14 AM:

    " Oh my can the big orange boat owners not read and not understand. All they need to do is fill out the paperwork which would take at most two or three hours and turn it in. They want to have a business on federal waterway. I looked it up and sad to say the forms are easy to fill out, but this seems like someone wanting the world to hand them everything. Heck I do not think they even charge for the application. "

    northsider wrote on Nov 4, 2009 6:18 AM:

    " I agree with mogas, our shoreline and lake are for use of the public! It has never looked so nice down there since all those vendors have been removed. It was getting so bad there was no beach left. As for the "floating vendors" they were clogging the water ways and creating a hazarded to boaters. If they want to operate a ligament business here in Havasu there is plenty of retail space available both in the channel area and in town. As to Tricia Chrzanowski’s claim of discrimination, that is laughable. Every other business in town has to get the required permits and pay taxes to do business here, why should they be exempt. Lake Havasu City and BLM the message from the majority of the local citizens is keep our beaches and waters free of commercial activities. "

    Tom Havasu wrote on Nov 4, 2009 12:01 AM:

    " I agree with mogas. The shoreline and the lake should be free of these eyesores and Ms. Chrzanowski needs to quit crying and follow the law. You days of tax free / license free business are over. Get over it! "

    bob wrote on Nov 3, 2009 11:19 PM:

    " okay everyone-just to clarify-I HAVE filed out the paper work for the srp and planned on filing for this srp(which by the way doesnt exist in arizona-thats why it is going to take 120 day minimum to grant one-if at all) I was told by the officer that any business (sea tow, vessel assist dixie bell)in the channel doesnt need one-so i am going to rent a slip in the channel. Now they are saying I only need one!!!
    I have asked for a meeting to see what is my best options before i submit it-but i have been unable to have this granted.

    I need a place to park the boat-thats it-the place i park now and have parked for 15 years is being purchased by the city from the state of arizona-so both say they dont have a problem with me parking there but cant give me a letter of permission.
    Which is one of the requirements to apply-
    I have three options but i would like the best one for all concerned-i am trying to work with everyone but everyones to afraid to talk-crazy!!! "

    cal/hav wrote on Nov 3, 2009 11:11 PM:

    " Interesting, cause in my 30 + years of owning in Havasu I never heard of the Orange Boat Running over and killing people like the Casino Boat has. Sounds like Mogas should be living in a Private gated community and pay association dues to maintain the lake that the FEDERAL Government provides for ALL People. "

    mogas wrote on Nov 3, 2009 11:02 PM:

    " The shoreline in the rotary park area should be for the exclusive use of the public for their recreational use. Unlicensed, non regulated businesses need to be removed from that area. The entire lake should be reserved for the public regulated exclusive use..Floating, unregulated, unlicensed business area eyesore and a navigational hazard...IMO.. "

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