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City denies vendors shoreline access

By NATHAN BRUTTELL
Today's News-Herald
Published Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:18 PM MST

The City Council could have made three decisions regarding shoreline vendors at Rotary Park. It only needed to make one.


Jillian Danielson Photo/Special to the News-Herald Blaine Hitchins, president of Arizona Watersports, who helped gather signatures for the petition against allowing shoreline vendors, speaks to the City Council Tuesday night during discussions on the issue.

The council decided, by a 5-2 vote, to not authorize Interim City Manager Charlie Cassens to sign an agreement with the Bureau of Land Management that would have allowed two shoreline vendors back to Rotary Park beach Tuesday night during the council meeting.

Mayor Mark Nexsen and Councilman Brian Wedemeyer held the dissenting votes. The decision nixed further discussion on allowing land-based kiosks or determining a fee for park permits. “In my opinion returning vendors to the public beaches is a step in the wrong direction and does nothing to enhance our city or make it a more attractive place to either residents or visitors,”

Councilman Dean Barlow said before the vote. “I would urge the council to retract efforts to turn back the clock and again allow vendors on our public beaches.”

Barlow’s statement, along with several residents’ statements requesting that vendors not be allowed back, received applause from those in attendance.

Several council members spoke of tourism and a projected $3.8 million budget deficit in the discussion. Councilman Brian Wedemeyer said his main goals were looking at finding new revenue sources and saving tax dollars.

“I think we should not only be trying to cut expenses, but also coming up with creative ways to generate more revenue without raising taxes and fees to residents,” he said. “I thought this was an opportunity for us as long as we had a limited amount of shoreline vendors and we had control of the situation, I really thought this was an opportunity for us.”

Nexsen said while it appeared the audience for the evening was against allowing the vendors back at Rotary Park, he had heard equal opinions from citizens for months.

“If you ever watch boxing, they always say let’s get ready to rumble,” Nexsen said before the discussion, anticipating difficulty. “I get people that say ‘I want those beaches cleared’ and I get an equal number that say ‘we’re a tourist town, how can the city council in good conscience eliminate jobs we so desperately need?’”

The BLM, in coordination with the city, removed all shoreline vendors from Rotary Park and London Bridge beaches in July 2009. The City Council held a public hearing during a work session on Oct. 13 to discuss regulated shoreline vending possibilities.

A few vendors and members of the Lake Havasu Marine Association referred to a petition against allowing shoreline vendors at any city park. Representatives claimed to have obtained 600 signatures in the last week supporting the petition.

Blaine Hitchins, president of Arizona Watersports, who helped gather signatures for the petition, said he would not be opposed to allowing shoreline vendors along a small southern area of Rotary Park with a proper kiosk, but was opposed to the proposed agreement.

“Going into Rotary Park as many times as I have … I think there’s already a parking issue,” he said. “I just do not see how this is going to benefit the city in any way shape or form. We only have two beaches for the public. If we had 10 and you wanted to use a commercial area for one, that would be fine.”

Chad Whetten, of Whettrods Jet Ski Rentals, said he was one of the vendors that was previously at the locations at Rotary Park beach under discussion.

“I think you should do what’s best for the city,” Whetten told the council. “I think right now the city needs money and this is a great way to earn revenue.”

The council’s decision means the city will not allow shoreline vendors with access through the park, but it does not necessarily mean there will no longer be shoreline vendors in Lake Havasu City or even at Rotary Park beach.

The BLM holds jurisdiction over all land below 450 feet, which includes the shoreline at Rotary Park beach. The city, however, owns the land above the 450 feet so city officials said an agreement was necessary to allow shoreline vendors back to the two specific locations, but not to other beach areas.

The council’s decision Tuesday night does not affect any future permits in other locations in the city, said BLM Lake Havasu Field Manager Ramone McCoy last week.

“The agreement and the council’s decision has no bearing on permits that may or may not be issued by the BLM,” McCoy said previously. “The confusion may have happened because we’re doing an environmental analysis for Thompson Bay as a whole. We will still continue with that analysis despite the decision the council makes.”

You can contact the reporter at nbruttell@havasunews.com

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Comments (55 comment(s))

    tazdave wrote on Feb 24, 2010 6:52 PM:

    " JM - Here's how it works from my point of view. We visit Havasu several times a year. 8 times last summer. We stay at Crazy Horse's VIP area so we get a slip. We are in the position to purchase a vacation house in Havasu. During last summer we were subjected to 7 "equipment inspections". including one that closed the entire river between the sandbar and the lake. That is unacceptable. We end the evening in the channel, enjoying a cigar and listening to music. Some times until 2 or 3 in the morning. My last trip to the channel was to play cheauffer to a group that went to listen to some rap star at Kokamo. BTW they said it was a waste of money and left early. Being bored, my wife and I left the boat to walk on the beach and actually picked up some trash along the shore. If your city is hurting for money, start citing these litterbugs. I returned to the boat about 11:30 to find a $290.00 parking ticket. I understand that there is no "overnight" mooring in the channel but having been there until the wee hours of the morning on many other occasions, even talking to local cops at that early hour, but the inconsistant enforcement of laws is what causes concern for visitors. We have decided to, at least for now, delay the purchase of a vacation home there and will probably spend a few of our weekends in BHC and cottonwood cove. We will still visit Havasu but not like we used to. My absence will not be felt but my story is not unique and the people who feel the same will do the same and that will be felt. I have a mantra against crime that reads "make them uncomfortable and they will go away". Renenber - this works for visitors as well. Thank you. "

    SouthCarolinaMike wrote on Feb 23, 2010 3:37 PM:

    " I am so glad that the city has shut down those ugly eye sore vendors off of our beaches. They do nothing for helping the environment around our lake but spill trash into our water and just sit there and look trashy. Good job havasu for getting rid of that mess, because i believe havasu can open its doors for more productive jobs in our society and jobs that wont hurt the wildlife and beauty of our lake. have you ever seen what the lake looks like after 4 weeks of spring break? it makes me sick to think that people can neglect our environment, and i feel the beaches have one less problem now "

    denial not a river wrote on Feb 10, 2010 2:20 PM:

    " Hey JM, it's not from a lack of trying on the LHCPD's part! 300% increase in one year! There are only so many cops and so many hours a day LMAO "

    Desertmouse wrote on Feb 9, 2010 6:39 PM:

    " Millions of ducks make it through hunting season, it does not help those who are shot! LOL "

    JM wrote on Feb 9, 2010 5:13 PM:

    " Thousands of law abiding citizens come here and manage not to get tickets HERE in LHC. Don't see how it's so difficult.... "

    Oreally wrote on Feb 8, 2010 9:38 AM:

    " How about we let the state take over the channel and the city launches. The state parks do a far better job than the city does at running anything dealing with the lake "

    desertmouse wrote on Feb 8, 2010 1:35 AM:

    " Hey JM, the only way to avoid a ticket in Havasu is to not come here. Thousands of law abiding former visitors took your advice last year and avoided tickets.....But they seem to have had a good lawful time Parker and BHC "

    C0MMON SENSE wrote on Feb 6, 2010 11:02 PM:

    " How can this moronic council close down the beach vendors then have a retreat on how to bring jobs to havasu??? Are you kidding?? If they can bring ! job to town I will be suprised !! "

    Had it with Havasu wrote on Feb 6, 2010 9:08 AM:

    " It's time to take the game back to them (the city and the BLM). Put some pressure in the right places and people like Nexsen and McCoy will find their time consumed with other issues and simply extend the proper courtesy to legitimate businesses.

    Unfortunately, the only way to address the police problem is to dissolve the department and contract with MCSO, which can be done. And, it is what this city needs. "

    JM wrote on Feb 6, 2010 8:36 AM:

    " Denial............ Simple solution, don't get a ticket........ DUH "

    denial not a river wrote on Feb 4, 2010 11:04 PM:

    " Northbound. Yes, Lake Havasu Manicipal Court is the only one the routinely turns down petitions to appear by telephone or not appear in lue of an repesenting attorney. Other courts will do this as a matter of policy for minor hearings. Lake Havasu requires you to show up from out of state for every minor hearing. That would include pre-trial conferences.
    It is one way a speed trap city uses the law to discourage people from fighting the ticket. "

    o'really wrote on Feb 4, 2010 2:12 PM:

    " Northbound. Maybe you are right. Please point out the websites, travel sites, travel agencies, newspapers, radio shows, bumper stickers, and organized boycotts of BHC or Parker.
    I think Desertmouse made an excellent point. I have never heard tourist say they wont be back because the view of the lake was obstructed by an orange boat floating in the bay. I have heard them say they wont be back because of the police here. The 300 percent increase in tickets in one year is a good indicator they are right. "

    northbound wrote on Feb 3, 2010 7:54 PM:

    " desertmouse wrote on Feb 3, 2010 9:42 AM:
    (Great point in asking why the same type of visitors from the same departure points are not complaining about other police departments or Courts.)

    How do you know visitors don't complain about the courts in other towns? Are you there to answer phones to other departments when they call crying about the fact they got a ticket and blah blah blah? No your not! Lake Havasu is not the only court where they have to come back to AZ and fight for their cits if they don' t wanna just pay for it thru the mail. But you don't know that because it's not printed in the paper for people to complain about. "

    Denial not a river wrote on Feb 3, 2010 4:35 PM:

    " I do not get how exposing a problem we all know about and even O'really's detractors cannot refute is "anti" anything except anti-corruption.
    Denial of easy access to services by future tourist just cost us tax dollars. I have not heard one tourist complaint about our shoreline but I have heard many complain about our courts. Hey Mayor and Council, how about you address the real issues in town? "

    desertmouse wrote on Feb 3, 2010 9:42 AM:

    " Good Job O'really. Keep it up. There are many many many more people in LHC who support your position than you know. Rat cannot debate the facts so he and North just insult.
    Great point in asking why the same type of visitors from the same departure points are not complaining about other police departments or Courts. Where there is smoke there is fire and we have an inferno of anti-tourist attitude in our Council to support this type of behavior from the Police and Council hired Judge. "

    o'really wrote on Feb 3, 2010 1:36 AM:

    " I do not mind sounding the alarm over what is bad here. It's not like anyone can refute what I am saying. We do have a poor reputation with our former visitors, visitors have been declining since well before the economy tanked--just about the time the number of tickets issued went up nearly 300% and Clyde said that his court was the most profitable. We do have the only Magistrate censured in the area and the least qualified one in the county on the job. We are the largest city in AZ without the requirement our Magistrate be a lawyer.
    Insult me all you want, its like a pot calling the kettle black but I have truth on my side. If telling the truth is anti whatever then I would rather be on the side of truth than the side trying to insult the truth. "

    Desertrat wrote on Feb 2, 2010 5:37 PM:

    " Once again, Oreally, you are welcome. You seem to live for insulting people who think differently than yourself. Continue on your anti-PD, anti-FD, anti-LHC, anti-Court crusade. At least it gives you something to do. A little pathetic in my book, but than again, it is your plight in life to convince people to see things your way. Good luck with that. "

    o'really wrote on Feb 2, 2010 10:58 AM:

    " Well thank you again for allowing me to show how dense some people are.
    Drat, it is you who says that anyone who wants a corrupt free court is a criminal. So if we deal with absolutes as you seem to want then anyone who opposses corrupt free courts is anti-tourist.
    NB, I defy you to find one post where I say I do not want the guilty punished? Just one. All I asked for that the innocent are not harrassed and asked to help make our court profitable.
    Now that you opened the door let me point out that BHC and Parker have the same type of tourists that we get here and they have police and magistrate and they do not have an image problem. The SBSO and the MCSO patrol the lake here and they do not have an image problem.
    So when the same people dealing with the same situation all have a problem with ONE place then I would guess it's the place. Where there is smoke.
    BHC and Parker have not had news articles, websites, and radio shows complain about thier lack of justice. They do not have the unofficial moniker "come to LHC on vacation and leave on probation"
    There is a problem here. Period. It is obvious what it is and the council refuses to remove a censured person from the bench. "

    northbound wrote on Feb 2, 2010 7:38 AM:

    " Hahaha o'really you crack me up. I can't wait for the day we have a new judge after Clyde retires and the 1st complaint from a visitor who gets a ticket for being stupid. Can't wait to see what o'really has to say then. She thinks all visitors will be ticket or cite free. Non of the california visitors could possibly break the law in any way shape or form, oh they couldn't of been driving drunk, they couldn't of been disorderly I think o'really shoud become a cop. "

    Desertrat wrote on Feb 2, 2010 6:47 AM:

    " ps- now that you basically have announced your identity (everything to do with the election is public record plus we know you have a shop under the bridge) we will see how 'corrupt' the PD really is-if your 'theory' is correct, you should start getting harassed pretty soon! "

    Desertrat wrote on Feb 2, 2010 6:43 AM:

    " So anyone who doesn't agree with Oreally is anti-tourist? Wow! Quite a leap. Talk about skewed, tunnel vision! "

    brightone wrote on Feb 1, 2010 11:59 PM:

    " I say let's get O'really to put his name on the ballot for mayor. I'm sure he could do a fine job. With DesertRat and Cal/Hav on council, this town would be unstoppable. Well, at least the rest of the county would get a laugh out of it. BEERS! "

    o'really wrote on Feb 1, 2010 7:54 PM:

    " I do know at least three who are planning on running and I will be on one persons campaign committee when he or she announces.
    We dont need a new court system, just a fair one and that starts at the top by changing the council and the magistrate.
    The council is anti-tourist. You might as well put Drat and Nothbound at a gate on the entrance on 95 saying we dont want them with the poor courts here and taking away convience for the visitors and destroy any chance at impulse renting.
    Well the police are still here to make up charges against our visitors so the court will still be profitable. "

    northbound wrote on Feb 1, 2010 2:54 PM:

    " Hey o'really ya gotta list of all these so called new people that are gonna run for office? Hey rat did you hear that we're gonna have a whole new court system (wink wink) "

    northbound wrote on Feb 1, 2010 2:42 PM:

    " Aw come on drat did you expect anything less from o'really? lol I would send her a block of chees to go with her whine if I had an address. HEY EVERYONE HEAR YE HEAR YE the whole problem with this town is the corrupt court system any further questions please see o'really she has all the 411 on it. "

    Desertrat wrote on Feb 1, 2010 1:13 PM:

    " You're welcome OReally. And I look forward to reading your bias, personal vendetta posts under every article for years to come. Keep on whining! Really seems to be working. "

    tiredofbunk wrote on Feb 1, 2010 12:19 PM:

    " And for those of you that think the city has any control over those business's nothing could be more wrong. The land is outside the city limits. The city chose not to annex Thompson Bay. BLM and the county are the controlling agencies. "

    tiredofbunk wrote on Feb 1, 2010 12:16 PM:

    " The reason the business's thrived is because there is a need. People visit our lake and want to experience it. We need vendors on the lake to keep people coming back. This action is extremely short sighted and led by a couple of business's that chose to base their business on on dry land. Just look at the picture. The speaker has stated his business has gone up 30% since he was successful in getting the vendors removed. Wake up, in these times we need to do everything possible to attract visitors, insure they have plenty of opportunity to experience our lake and want to come back. "

    mogas wrote on Feb 1, 2010 11:00 AM:

    " I guess the vendors can open up anywhere they want and pay rent like all the other shops and stores in town. What does it matter? The heavy handed Marine County Sheriff and the way they bully College kids are driving them away from LHC anyway..Some Residents like seeing this and most others don't really care.. "

    FORMER JUDGE wrote on Feb 1, 2010 1:04 AM:

    " I think the Mayor's agenda was to try and save the city from its self,,The city IS gonna get sued over this, They sold these people business licence's The people thought they had a right to be there because of it, They borrowed money to start a business(because the city said it was ok) Then a few d-uchbag's decide they want to flex their muscle, Dean, DON, Jim, Blane,Mike Henderson, The marine assn, O well usually what comes around goes around,,Most of there fellows are old anyway they will be gone soon,,,Please Remember,,,,BOYCOTT ALL THE BUSINESS IN THE LAKE HAVASU MARINE ASSN,,,, "

    O'really wrote on Jan 31, 2010 10:37 PM:

    " Thanks for giving me an opportunity to respond and show how this relates Drat.
    The council has once again made a poor decision against our tourist just like they did when they appointed the least qualified who applied for the position of Magistrate because PROFIT was the concern and reappointed him after even more qualified people expressed interest in the postion even after he was censured by the state.
    Thanks for giving me the chance to chime in. "

    C0MMON SENSE wrote on Jan 31, 2010 8:15 PM:

    " havalicous,,,,You sure seem to think you know about what you talk but you are full of it ,,#1 yes the customers have to walk across PUBLIC beach to reach the LHC Marine Vendors just like you drive on a public road to get to safeway ETC.#2 They do have employees "I AM ONE" I no longer have a JOB! #3 The person I worked for is no longer in biz,,#4 What was the mayors agenda I must have missed that part ?? Or was it cause he questioned a bully?(the pres of the marine assn) Just because you got "took" when you bought your new biz dont make it someone elses fault,,The vendors are comming back get used to it! Your just like those blue/no hairs griping about BJs music..Its not all about you git over it "

    Mutant wrote on Jan 31, 2010 5:32 PM:

    " dear missed "mutent",
    why the shouting?(caps(hats)off to you!) The people we placed in a position of power have deemed it wrong for people to make a dime off the people's land. Commercial ventures should obey the law; or the law shall come to them. Rotary was meant to be free. Now site six that will soon be a pay to park, still free to launch, but the people in power are deeming it right to make dime off those who park.
    And isn't a park what we started talking about in the first place? "

    Daytona572 wrote on Jan 31, 2010 10:50 AM:

    " Havalicius,if you don`t know what you are talking about don`t speak.I know four of the Vendors are out of business and it is a fact that three did hire employees.Now for the others that did operate by owners only what is your point? what is the crime there someone willing to sit there 7 days a week in all kinds of conditions and attempting to make a living vs living off the system.Get your facts together before you embarrass yourself further. "

    Desertrat wrote on Jan 31, 2010 9:00 AM:

    " Once again oreally makes the article about her own personal vendetta. Sad. "

    havalicous wrote on Jan 30, 2010 5:32 PM:

    " Obviously not many people "here" listened to the problems
    It is against the city's own laws to allow commercial business on rotary. The city would have to change their own laws to allow this to happen.Even if the vendors were in the water, their customers would have to walk on the sand to get to the water.ALL the lake vendors are still in business on land!All the lake vendors were operated by the owners with NO employee. So how and why the MAYOR wants this to continue...and did anyone listen to the Mayor and what HIS agenda was that evening? Wow, this town sure does turn a blind eye when they want to. "

    Mutent wrote on Jan 29, 2010 11:05 PM:

    " THESE PEOPLE ARE NUTS DO THEY REALLY THINK PEOPLE GO TO THE BEACH TO SWIM?? THE GUYS GO TO SEE THE GIRLZ AND THE GIRLZ GO TO RIDE IN BOATS AND JETSKIs DUH! THIS WAS ALL A POWER SHOW FROM Jim Salscheider and HIS Marine Assn, BOYCOTT THE MARINE ASSN,!! "

    oldone wrote on Jan 29, 2010 9:54 PM:

    " o'reaaly what is a bluehair? older women quit doing that along time ago. "

    Mutant wrote on Jan 29, 2010 6:51 PM:

    " the people you elected.selected,and now rejected have spoken- let my people go! I mean let the city visitors deal with land based businesses who have been here already- i believe all the lake shore vultures -land based? it was only the location that was the draw in renting out jet skis anyway-why not now promote the views from the uncluttered beach? and the many activities the rotating beach can offer? for soon the city council will cave and change their minds. and then promote the city owned extravaganza- so many lake based vendors in a small little space for boats that carbon monoxide will not be a problem- unless jet skis make CO? "

    law wrote on Jan 29, 2010 9:52 AM:

    " What about the Big Yellow boat that floats out in the Bay???? Is it like SEA TOW, Parasail Boat? "

    o'really wrote on Jan 28, 2010 6:20 PM:

    " In the next election several people are going to run who will not cater to the blue hair minds that have dragged this city down, they will not abide the corrupt courts that have driven away the tourists.
    Look for them, vote for them. End this blue hair tyranny. "

    WATCHING HAVASU DIE wrote on Jan 28, 2010 6:07 PM:

    " Why would they even listen to any one like Blane Hitchens,,,He own's a rental company of course he has an agenda,,,
    BOYCOTT THE BUSINESS MEMBERS OF THE MARINE ASSN, "

    FORD FAIRLANE wrote on Jan 28, 2010 1:53 AM:

    " Boycott all the Member Businesses Of the Marine Assn, "

    DUSAN wrote on Jan 28, 2010 1:52 AM:

    " Well of course the Council the council caters to the blue hairs,,,Thats what they are,,You should have seen Lee Barnes during the meeting He looked like he was having a demencia episode,,Can't wait til re-election time,,,We call it the Gray/Blue hair syndrome,,They dont get that it's 2010,,Are any of them members of the Marine Assn? they cant vote if they are "

    o'really wrote on Jan 27, 2010 10:37 PM:

    " Once again the council caters to the blue hairs who should be ignored when it comes to summer activities here. "

    FORMER JUDGE wrote on Jan 27, 2010 7:25 PM:

    " Kudos to the Mayor for exposing the marine assn's agenda,,,, "

    middleage wrote on Jan 27, 2010 5:20 PM:

    " Great decision. I would rather enjoy the view at the park than be forced to look at old shacks, jet skis and crummy old pontoon boats. Let the vendors operate somewhere else, not on one of the only pretty beaches there is in town! "

    Daytona572 wrote on Jan 27, 2010 5:08 PM:

    " Jim S.from LHCMA and his steady line of negative citizens last night was truly an embarassement to the City.The 800 lb Gorilla with their "IN" with 5 council members finally got their way. The jury is out on this next summer the verdict will come in with visitor comments and going elsewhere to spend their money..This city can not even handle this correctly and you wonder how the sewer issue will ever end with positive results? Dream on. "

    katspur wrote on Jan 27, 2010 1:01 PM:

    " If you haven't noticed this is not a tourist town anymore. I do not see the busses parked 8 wide at the English Village as I did years back. If you think summer boaters are tourist they are not. They only come here to use the lake that they do not have in their area. If you look at the Snowbirds they come here to get out of the cold. There is nothing in Havasu that would catagorize this as a tourist site or town. Oatman is a tourist site, Hoover Dam is a tourist site. Havasu was until greed took over the London Bridge. Restore the Bridge area, and then you might have a tourist attraction again. Leave the Greed someplace else. "

    raisedinLHC wrote on Jan 27, 2010 12:46 PM:

    " BAD MOVE on the City Councils part. As a 30 year resident and father of children we not only enjoy Rotary more now due to the sell of our boat, but last year rented sit down PWC's twice during the summer off Rotary due to the convenience. This issue has been blown out of proportion by those with vested interest. I am amazed at the Marine Associations negative stance on this issue. Remember, everything we do isn't just for the visitors. Go to any REAL beach and you can not only rent beach cruisers, rafts, floats but also get food, ice and beverages without having to leave the park and drive somewhere to to get it. It should be regulated and we should offer convenience to our residents and visitors. Again....BAD DECISION city council. As for the Marine Association....No Comment! "

    FORMER JUDGE wrote on Jan 27, 2010 12:39 PM:

    " I wonder if windsor beach rentals and Jim Salscheider and HIS Marine Assn,Are gonna help pay the Judgments when the Vendors sue ?? "

    TRIT00N wrote on Jan 27, 2010 12:37 PM:

    " Actually all the Vendors are comming back come spring Plus a few more,,And all the city can do now is sit back and watch, Anybody can park/walk in/on the PUBLIC beach, This city has a history of not seeing the big picture,, "

    resident wrote on Jan 27, 2010 11:52 AM:

    " thank you, this is the right decision. Create a better, sandy shoreline for visitors to enjoy the lake. "

    Tritoon wrote on Jan 27, 2010 1:39 AM:

    " Thank you to the five Council members who voted simply in the best interest of the community. Dissenters are still talking about this as a revenue source but I've never heard any numbers - my guess is we'd see a windfall amount of about 25 cents per resident per year. Seems funny that our accountant Mayor would support this. I'm further confused by Ramone's comments. As I understand it, BLM is one of the key agencies blocking the dock replacement project at Windsor yet he appears to be receptive to having jet skis continuously churning up our prime public shoreline. I guess there aren't any endangered minnows or algae at Rotary, only Windsor. Seems weird to me but I'm sure Ramona has a great explanation - maybe he could share it with us before one of those pesky vendors surprisingly reemerges at Rotary with one of his permits. I was hoping that this Whack a Mole game would finally end tonight but suspect we're still going to need a silver bullet. Too bad, Mayberry isn't supposed to be like this! "

    WATCHING HAVASU DIE wrote on Jan 26, 2010 11:44 PM:

    " Ha those fool's dont know how bad they shot themselfs in the foot, They just flung the door wide open,, Think this was a victory?? Think Again,,Did you see those vendors in the back Laughing?? There is a reason,,They played you like a fiddle,,,What a country indeed,,, "

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